The Building 4th Podcast
Welcome to the Building 4th Podcast where we explore the Perennial Philosophy from various lenses including the psychological, theological, spiritual, conventional, and esoteric. Our points of emphasis include the Hebrew and Christian scriptures (including the non-canonical Christian texts), the Law of One material, the Enneagram, Process thought (ie Whitehead’s Philosophy of Organism) integral theory, and developmental psychology.
Welcome to the Building 4th Podcast where we explore the Perennial Philosophy from various lenses including the psychological, theological, spiritual, conventional, and esoteric. Our points of emphasis include the Hebrew and Christian scriptures (including the non-canonical Christian texts), the Law of One material, the Enneagram, Process thought (ie Whitehead’s Philosophy of Organism) integral theory, and developmental psychology.
Episodes
Sep 1, 2023
Sep 1, 2023
12 min
This is another brief presentation on Will (desire) and Faith.
Sep 1, 2023
12 min
Sep 1, 2023
Sep 1, 2023
21 min
This brief podcast episode is my attempt as a psychotherapist to translate good psychological techniques and the metaphysics of the Law of One material into a helpful practice.
Sep 1, 2023
21 min
Aug 30, 2023
A Course of Love Presentation
Aug 30, 2023
Aug 30, 2023
59 min
Building 4th member, Danny Neece, gave a wonderful introduction to A Course of Love material. This channeled material has been instrumental to him and to many others in learning how to live out our daily lives with wholeheartedness. Mari Perron, the one who received ACOL, was also present in the online gathering. Some discussion included similarities between the Law of One material and A Course of Love.
Images for the presentation can be found here:
Law of One: www.llresearch.org
A Course of Love: https://acourseoflove.org/
Mari Perron: https://www.mariperron.com/
Buddha At the Gas Pump Interview with Mari Perron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtGeDN0yi_Y
Aug 30, 2023
59 min
Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
1 hr 47 sec
Doug wanted to find out what a professor of philosophy who is an expert on Alfred North Whitehead's Process Philosophy might say about the metaphysics of the Law of One material. Both of us discussed the importance of finding ways to help people live wholeheartedly in the immediacy of their lives.
Show notes:
Matt Segall, PhD, is a transdisciplinary researcher and teacher applying process philosophy across the natural and social sciences, including the study of consciousness. He is Assistant Professor in the Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness Program at California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco, CA. Follow his work at Footnotes2Plato.com
A great intro to Whitehead's metaphysics: https://youtu.be/sRA-QoOGPPg
My interview on Metanoism: http://cosmicchrist.net/2023/05/21/metanoism-a-psychospiritual-framework-for-stewarding-positive-change/
Jun 14, 2023
1 hr 47 sec
Jun 3, 2023
Edgar Cayce and the Law of One
Jun 3, 2023
Jun 3, 2023
57 min
Anna is related to the Edgar Cayce and gives a fascinating overview of his life, his familial roots, and how his readings are similar to what was channeled through L/L Research known as the Law of One material.
Images in the presentation found here: https://cosmicchrist.net/2023/06/03/edgar-cayce-and-the-law-of-one/
Jun 3, 2023
57 min
May 29, 2023
May 29, 2023
49 min
Building 4th member, Demarcus, gives a wonderful description using the Law of One material and Q'uo.
Images here: https://cosmicchrist.net/2023/05/29/4th-density-light-love-how-its-affecting-us-and-how-to-use-it/
May 29, 2023
49 min
May 7, 2023
May 7, 2023
51 min
Leon concludes his three-part series on psychedelics. He focuses on bringing the experiences into third density, as well as discussing techniques of integration. Doug Esse provides information on the cosmic Law of Responsibility and the use of spiritual tools based upon what Ra in the Law of One states.
Images: https://cosmicchrist.net/2023/05/07/plant-medicine-discussion-part-3-psychedelics-and-law-of-one/
May 7, 2023
51 min
May 7, 2023
May 7, 2023
47 min
Who are the medicines for? What is the experience like? What’s with “bad trips”? Healing modalities between medicines are discussed. Leon continues in part two on his experience of plant medicine.
Images: https://cosmicchrist.net/2023/05/07/plant-medicine-discussion-part-2-psychedelics-and-law-of-one/
May 7, 2023
47 min
May 7, 2023
May 7, 2023
54 min
What are they for? How do they help? What does Ra in the Law of One material say? Leon offers a three-part series on his experience of plant medicine.
Images: https://cosmicchrist.net/2023/05/07/plant-medicine-discussion-part-1-psychedelics-and-law-of-one/
May 7, 2023
54 min
May 5, 2023
Forgiveness Stops the Wheels of Inertia
May 5, 2023
May 5, 2023
12 min
34.4 Questioner: Thank you. Would you define karma?
Ra: I am Ra. Our understanding of karma is that which may be called inertia. Those actions which are put into motion will continue using the ways of balancing until such time as the controlling or higher principle which you may liken unto your braking or stopping is invoked. This stoppage of the inertia of action may be called forgiveness. These two concepts are inseparable.
17.20 [...] In forgiveness lies the stoppage of the wheel of action, or what you call karma.
May 5, 2023
12 min

Our Vision
Ra says, “The Original Desire is that all entities seek and become one” (20.27). The “oneing” arises across ever increasing complexity. Complexification is evolution, and evolution is gained “by the losing,” as Ra mentions in 93.24.
It is sometimes said that there are three boxes that lead to evolution: Order, Disorder, and Reorder. Individually and collectively, we have to a sense of ‘order’ so that we develop identity. Then, we have to go through ‘disorder’ so that the experience the expansion and transformation of our ‘order’ gave us. We arrive at ‘reorder,’ but not after considerable deconstruction. In a world whose sense-making worldviews and institutions are thoroughly in disorder, how can we hold the depth of meaning so that we live into new spaces of inner and collective freedom? Our podcast hopes to be a small voice in the desert (disorder) which attempts to integrate, not segregate; unite diversity, not demand uniformity; include the pieces of disorder so that we may transcend into reconstructing–reconciling–reordering–renewing–the ever ancient, and ever new.
Building 4th is the name of our small spiritual community that is centered around the cosmic law known as the Law of One.
What does “Building 4th” mean? [see below for further descriptions of each of these four points]
- Building the Fourth Density [1]
- Building the Fourth Energy Center [2]
- Building the Fourth Way [3]
- Building Forth On Our Spiritual Evolution [4]
Building 4th’s Fourth Way is to embrace an incarnational spirituality grounded in the immediacy of our life-situations.
- We seek to learn in order to serve: We affirm that whenever we study the Law of One or other spiritual material, whether on our own or as a group, this is for the purpose of crystallizing our spiritual principles and learning how to embody them.
- The mundane is sacred: We affirm that there is no separation between the ordinary world and divinity. For example, doing dishes is an act of the Creator knowing Itself and can be supremely sacred.
- Love is our metric: We affirm that any teaching or belief, whether conventional or esoteric, is valued by how well it helps us love and understand ourselves and others, including those others whom we perceive to be different or even antagonistic.
- The way down is the way up: We affirm that our ordinary lives are rich in opportunities to grow spiritually. We try to bring our full presence and open heart to each moment, even–and especially–the difficult ones. We are learning that there is no escaping the conditions that foster our personal growth and therefore our goal is to embrace each challenge wherever we discern that it is safe and appropriate to do so. And even in dangerous, unsafe situations, we want to hold the assurance that the creator’s love is with us and we are immortal spiritual beings. In short, the ascension process is not a journey up and out of this difficult third-density illusion, but rather a movement down and into it more.
- The importance of humility: Ra suggests that to become the creator, “[…]renders one the most humble servant of all, transparent in personality and able to know and accept others.” We trust that our understanding is ever evolving, thus we try to hold our own views and various identities with humility. We acknowledge that admitting we don’t know fully requires some level of vulnerability and this can be uncomfortable.
We are inspired by the perennial philosophy that undergirds most of the world’s major spiritual traditions. For us, one primary description of the perennial philosophy is the Law of One material.
We are also informed by the academic disciplines of psychology, sociology, and theology, as we endeavor to weave a healthy synthesis between the conventional and the cosmic, the exoteric and the esoteric, and micro and the macro [4].
We hope that you enter the adventure with us and that you’ll enjoy our podcast.






